Barry Shore:

I can’t think of anybody that I would like to share with you that inspires noble deeds more than the amazing, the wonderful, the inimitable Moe Rock. Moe, please say hello to 366,820 people around the world.

Moe Rock:

Wow, thank you so much for that, Barry. I’m just so excited, so pumped up to spend some time with you. Every chance that I have to have a conversation with you I always leave our conversations more enlightened, more inspired, just in the spirit of full transparency. I do have that opportunity once in a while to speak with you off the air, which does my heart glad. And of course, you’re talking about the words of the Dalai Lama, and it reminded me of this beautiful card that I have, which says be kind always. And so, I’m excited Barry to spend some time speaking with you. I’m excited for the folks watching at home. And the folks watching this all around the world already know what to expect from the Barry Shore program. Because you always leave something for people to make their day better, therefore make their life better. So, I’m excited to spend some time with you today, Barry. Thank you so much for doing this.

Barry Shore:

And back at you kid. By the way, when was the last time somebody said F U to you and you laughed?

Moe Rock:

About three days ago when I cut someone off on the five. But besides that situation…

Barry Shore:

[Crosstalk: 10:34] was F U capital N capital.

Moe Rock:

That probably was the last time I spoke with you.

Barry Shore:

So, I urged and pleaded with Moe to spend time with us together today because he is the embodiment of what’s happening in the United States of America. And it’s spreading worldwide, which is the ability to work a plan and bring it to fruition through action. You see the key to life is, everybody has a lot of good ideas, we know this Moe but the ability to make a plan real by taking action is really the key. And I want to focus on three things that we’ve talked about in the past and mentioned today. We’re going to talk about leadership. We’re going to speak about spirituality. And we’re going to talk about love and gratitude. So, let’s start right away with leadership. I’m going to tell everybody. If I start telling all the people everything about you it will take the rest of the hour. I’m not going to. I’m going to suffice to say three things. Number one, you were deeply involved, highly successful in the entertainment business in the Los Angeles area. And if there was any place where entertainment rules, it’s Los Angeles. Maybe New York also but Los Angeles. That’s number one. Number two, what you did is you were able to find a gem, a large hundred plus carat diamond that you were able to find, polish, and bring to bear by buying up the La Tribune. So, I want to talk about those two things. Your transition from entertainment. And now the real entertainment of bringing the La Tribune which began in 1886, everybody, and bringing it to the world in a new format so that it sparkles, it glistens, it glows, and people are so attracted to it that they want to learn more about it. So please, Moe, tell us more about you and the La Tribune.

Moe Rock:

Well, thank you so much for that, Barry. And to start off with you make such a profound, powerful, important point that we can’t gloss over. And that’s the distinction between thinking and having a good idea and execution. There are a lot of smart people on the face of this planet. There are a whole host and a whole myriad of people much smarter than I am. And it’s very fascinating, Barry, because every time something like for instance, I’ll use the example of Uber. Every time an Uber comes into fruition, all you got to do is sit at a Starbucks in Silicon Valley, and you’ll eavesdrop and hear nine people say, you know I had this idea for Uber, it was my idea, I thought about it way back in the day that you can grab your phone, push a button and a taxi cab driver will come to pick you up. You go to Los Angeles eavesdrop, you hear the same thing everywhere. Ideas are good, you have to have good ideas but they’re very, very, very common. Good ideas are futile. The market does not respond to your brilliant idea. This is something that so many people have a misunderstanding. People think just because they have a good idea they’re somehow entitled to financial success. They’re entitled to an investor writing them a check. They’re entitled to a share of the market because their idea is so brilliant. There are a lot of brilliant ideas. It’s the execution as you said. And most of the great ideas, most of the great successes are not really predicated on amazing ideas. Most of the great successes are predicated on systems. Most of the great ideas are just because people are able to do something simple in a consistent way. And I think just one final point, one final thought before we move forward is there are two books that I know a lot of folks in your audience would appreciate would know, two authors that I know a lot of people, your audience in your space would know. And of course, one is Napoleon Hill and one is W Clement Stone. Now, what’s interesting about Napoleon Hill and what’s interesting about W Clement Stone is everyone knows about Think and Grow Rich, everyone knows about Napoleon Hill. And not as many people know about W Clement Stone but what’s interesting is Napoleon Hill was, according to some, essentially financially broke at one point in his life. And it was actually W Clement Stone in the latter years that hired him as a sales trainer and put Napoleon Hill back into the financial status that he once enjoyed earlier in his career. Now, one would ask the question, why is it the W Clement Stone, who was inspired by Napoleon Hill, W. Clement Stone, who became very, very, very, very, very, very, very rich and very, very wealthy, using Napoleon Hill’s principles that he wrote about, using Napoleon Hill’s ideas. Why is it that he actually ended up more financially successful over the course of their lifetime than Napoleon Hill? And I think the answer actually lies in the title of the respective books. If you look at Think and Grow rich, and if you look at The Success System That Never Fails, which is the book that W Clement Stone wrote.

The word system being the keyword and being the key distinction of the two. And so, while we all have great ideas, while we all have fascinating coffee shop talk, unless you have a system put in place it does not matter. The marketplace will not respond to you. And so, this is something that is very difficult for a lot of people to grasp Barry, because most entrepreneurs are so attached to their own brilliance, to their own ideas, that they somehow are under the assumption that because they’re intelligent people, as I said, they’re entitled to success that’s not how it works. And so, I highly recommend folks because I know you’ve had… Jack Canfield has worked with you, and Mark Victor Hansen has been on your show, and every thought leader that you could think of has been on your show, and I know your audience is global and your audience is, by and large, the self-help personal development audience so I know that they know these names. Read Think and Grow Rich, and then read The Success System That Never Fails, side by side, one after the other, and you’ll see the difference in the two. So again, and this does go to the point of leadership, I think that leadership is understanding distinctions, getting out of your own head, not being focused on your own passions all the time. We hear so much follow your passion, be passionate, a lot of times people interview successful people and ask CEOs, what’s the secret to success? It’s passion. That’s a bullshit answer. Because I’m passionate about drinking Micheladas. I love drinking Micheladas. I’m passionate about spending time around beautiful people, people that I love and care about having a good time. I’m passionate about those things. I’m passionate about watching Minnesota Timberwolves, my favorite basketball team. I love watching them. Barry, believe it or not, I have yet to find anybody that’s going to pay me to watch me do any of those things. I have tried so hard for somebody to pay me money to watch me drink Michelada, to watch me watch a basketball game. I’m still looking. I’m passionate about those things. I’m very passionate about those things. But yet, they do not help me financially. And so, these childish ideas that are floating around, people need to get over these childish ideas. Just be passionate about what you want to do, just have the right thinking. That’s only a very small part of it. Now, can being passionate about what you do help? Yes, of course. But it’s not the end all be all. Being passionate about what you do can help to an extent because if you actually look at the root word of passion it actually comes from the word suffering. And so, when people are saying, follow your passion, follow your passion, what they’re saying is follow your suffering, follow your suffering. And so, being an entrepreneur is hard, you will suffer. Being a business owner is hard, you will suffer. Yet, if you are passionate you will follow your suffering, you’re not going to back down from it because you’re going to keep going through the suffering. So to that extent, it’s useful. But it’s not the end all be all. And so, a lot of these folks simply can’t give three words, four-word answers to these kinds of questions that say just follow your passion. It’s almost like they have a secret sauce they don’t want to share about their own journey, their own story. So, they give some answers like that. I don’t like that. I think that everyone should be true to who they are individually, publicly, privately, and share the wealth of wisdom if you’ve come across something. So, that’s my stance on leadership. And of course, what we’re doing with La Tribune, my team, myself, and a lot of folks behind the scenes that are involved with it, it’s not just me, it’s a team effort. We’re really redefining news, Barry. And you have also been, just in the spirit of full transparency, you’ve been a large part of the La Tribune both behind the scenes and in front of the camera. You are on our advisory board, and we thank you for that. And going back to the point of leadership, surround yourself with quality people. Surround yourself with the Barry Shores of the world. Appreciate the Barry Shores of the world. Know the value that they have. If I’m talented at anything, Barry, it’s having the depth of vision to appreciate the right people. That’s really the only thing that I’m gifted at. And so, what we’re doing with the La Tribune is, we’re redefining news. We no longer want the news to be something that’s disempowerment, we want people to realize the news can be empowerment. And so, we don’t do fear-mongering, we do not have the philosophy of if it bleeds, it leads. We have the philosophy of what can we do to empower people. We also happen to be the only national brand that covers the personal development industry. We’re the only national brand that covers all these incredible thought leaders, authors and speakers that, by and large, get ignored by the rest of mainstream media. And so, we not only do a lot of traditional things with an empowerment slant, but we also cover a world that no other mainstream national news brand does. And so, I’m very proud of the work that the team is doing, the different divisions they are going on. And I just one small part of it. But it’s very exciting work that we’re doing there. And so hopefully, the audience gathered something from that long-winded answer. And hopefully, they got some value to take home.

Barry Shore:

So, several things to unpack here because it was long but not long-winded. It was spot on. I want to mention to people three things. Number one, everything that you heard from Moe, first of all, was true. That’s beside the point. Because he won’t speak unless it’s based foundationally on truth. Everything you want to know about Moe and the La Tribune and things that are happening just go to my website, barryshore.com. You don’t have to write anything down just lean in and let this transformational being come through you and enable you to be empowered, as he said. Just go to barryshore.com, all the information about Moe, the La Tribune will be there. That’s number one. Number two is what Moe is mentioning to you about passion is so vital. Vital, of course, means life-giving, it is vital. He’s quite correct. You’re passionate about XYZ, great. Because that enables you to bring more benefit to the world, which means will that enable you to be financially successful? Because only when you are financially successful can you be of greater benefit to other people. We love people who are selfish in the most positive, purposeful, powerful way. Because if you’re not considering that you’re not really there to serve. We are servants, Moe and I. That’s really why you tuned in. See the show is not about Moe Rock. It’s not a show about Barry Shore even though we’re great guys, and we know a lot. It’s really about you, Y-O-U. You becoming happier, healthier, wealthier. [Unintelligible: 23:38]. The other thing is, you said, in the beginning, the words and they were so spot-on, entitle. People think they’re entitled to something. That is truly the kiss of death. If you think you’re entitled, I beg you, I plead with you, and then I’ll kick you. Put it aside and say I am here to be a servant and to work hard and smart. So, the hardest part is the combination of what Moe just taught us about Napoleon Hill and W. Clement Stone. One without the other would not have made history. You see, history was made because of ideas that were implemented. And that’s what Moe is doing. The La Tribune is a national brand. It is also becoming rapidly an international brand because it’s the Los Angeles Tribune. Los Angeles is a city that means much to many people in many different ways. And the point is, I’m going to ask now, Moe before we go to our short break in a few minutes, let’s delve in a little bit more about La Tribune and give some of the backstories of where it began, how it began, and where it is today as the preeminent voice in the self-development world.

Moe Rock:

Well, thank you for that Barry. And of course, the Los Angeles Tribune, the name has a history that stems from 1886. In fact, I have a copy of the 1886 edition right here framed. And so with that being said, we do have over 100 years of name recognition. And it’s had a lot of different turns over the course of the different leadership that has carried the mantle of that name. My team, and I look at ourselves more like stewards of that name. And so, I feel more like a steward than anything else. And so our responsibility, I believe, is very timely as well because not only are we one of the few national brands compared to a lot of the other national brands out there, our conglomerate is relatively small. We do have different divisions, we do have other companies and other subsets, and there are a lot of strategic partners that we work with. But we’re not connected to a Viacom, we’re not connected to a clear channel, we still have our independent voice, we still can make our own decisions on the local level. And that gives us a lot more freedom. Because we don’t have a bureaucracy that we have to deal with, corporate bureaucracy. And that’s something that is one of my allergies, I have quite a few allergies. They’re not seasonal, they’re annual. One of them is corporate bureaucracies. Another one is entitlement as you spoke of. Whenever I deal with entitlement energy, I start sneezing. And next thing you know, whoever’s bringing that entitlement energy, we’re just not clicking. Slowly over time we just kind of drift away. Whether it’s an employee, a strategic partner, or a friend. I just don’t do well with entitlement energy. I think that we live in a very fascinating time in which entitlement is being encouraged as opposed to entitlement being discouraged. Going back to the earlier conversation of empowerment versus disempowerment. I have yet to find somebody that has a successful, fulfilling, and happy life that is constantly entitled. Even if someone has a decent external life but they feel entitled to it either something happens in the external life crumbles, or even if they’re able to maintain that facade internally they’re miserable. And so, you mentioned gratitude, which is something I’m very big on. I look at gratitude as one of the medicines to entitlement. And so, it’s one medicine but another medicine to entitlement, or therapy for entitlement or sort of philosophies. I don’t agree with everything that she wrote. But it’s not a black and white life. We can take good things from certain folks and leave the things we disagree with. But Ayn Rand, for example, has certain ideas that I agree with. Certain ideas I strongly disagree with. But reading Ayn Rand is something that would help someone who feels entitled.

Barry Shore:

Absolutely correct.

Moe Rock:

And so, another person, of course, Milton is on that list, Ayn Rand is on that list. And you don’t have to agree with everything that these folks are saying, I don’t.

Barry Shore:

As a matter of fact, let me put you on pause for a moment. Here’s where Moe becomes of great benefit to you watching, listening. The ability, first of all, to read, not just watch videos, is a remarkably empowering and enlightening skill. The ability, once you begin reading, to begin to think, and to see that the ideas being put forth did not come down from on high from a mountain, and therefore must be believed 100%. The ability to think through and to discern to become a discriminating person. See, discrimination has a bad name in today’s world. Oh, I don’t discriminate. Well, if you don’t, then you become a fool. We’re not here for people to become fooled. We’re here for people to come full. Not F-O-O-L but F-U-L-L. We want you to become full in their lives, therefore, thinking and discriminating amongst different ideas makes the difference between great success and failure. There’s a great line that I was taught in my eighth-grade class by my Math teacher. There are many reasons for failure but no excuse. There’s no excuse for that. If you don’t read it’s the same as if you can’t read. So, Moe is bringing to us some very amazing issues, by the way, again, go to barryshore.com because he’s talking about names that you may or may not be familiar with. And it’s really important to begin to learn these names and to read some of them. So, before we go back in and go deep into some of the other medicines that you’re going to help us with so we get rid of the entitlement curse. Thank God we have sponsors that love us and that really want to share their ideas with the world. We’ll be right back after these brief messages. Don’t go away because Moe does rock.

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Barry Shore:

Good day beautiful, bountiful, beloved immortal beings and good-looking people. Maybe you’re good-looking because you’re always looking for and finding the good. We have good in abundance. Our cup runneth over with good in the form of a two-legged being named Moe Rock and he is rocking our world. Because he is helping us understand that an entitlement mindset is destructive of you. Remember you’re tuned in because you want to be happier, healthier, and wealthier, follow [unintelligible: 34:12]. So, let’s take a look at one person right now, and then we’re going to ask you Moe to comment on the idea of the spiritual aspect of life and making that happen so that all parts of life are connected. Elon Musk, is the richest man on planet earth today, maybe in the history of the world. Let’s take a look at three things that he said recently that I heard. We were talking man on man, he and I. Guess what he did? He reinvented the electric car. The electric car preceded the internal combustion engine. It was around the time just a little bit after the La Tribune was first started in 1886. Just about 8, 10 years after that the little electric car was in existence and then internal combustion came along. And then it overpowered it. But Elon Musk said, I just reinvented it. But what did he do? He didn’t just have the idea. This is where Moe has rocked our world. He built the systems to deliver the electric car. Not just an electric car, the most advanced computerized that couldn’t happen unless he put together all of the pieces of the new world that it was internet-connected. That was utilizing the latest software and making us understand that you weren’t driving a car that you were sitting inside of a computer. And that was what was transported. He was in the transportation business not in the automobile business. And he became, thank God, the richest man in the world. And he is the man who has paid more taxes in one year than all people earning $50,000 or less in the past 50 years. Do you hear that? That’s because he put together as Moe said, a team. Team stands for together, everyone achieves miracles. But they’re not miracles in the sense when you work with a system. So, let’s talk about leadership as an outside process but it is built from the inside out, in my humble opinion, Moe. And that is where you shine in the spiritual aspect of life. You were talking about Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand is both a practical being and a spiritual being. So, let’s talk about spirituality and how that blends in your life. And you might even want to bring in Denis Waitley, as an example.

Moe Rock:

Absolutely. Well, first of all, thank you for that. And just to touch base on what you’re saying about Elon. I’m a fan of Elon Musk and his work. I happen to drive a Tesla, here are my keys right here. And I also happen to own stock in the company. 

Barry Shore:

I just went into ruff for one moment only because I’m careful with words, don’t you happen to own a Tesla, you happen to own stock, you chose to buy a Tesla. You chose to invest your hard-earned money. That is the difference between Moe with an idea, hey, I happen to be entitled, no. He made a decision he stuck to it and look at the results. Please.

Moe Rock:

Thank you for that, Barry. And just to continue with the conversation. When I say I have a Tesla, by the way, I have a Tesla, not a model three. I want to just throw that out there. With that being said, I do believe that certainly Elon is an example of what happens when you don’t limit yourself with limiting beliefs. If Elon Musk had the limiting belief that you cannot simultaneously have a company that goes to outer space, simultaneously have a company that is in the solar space, and consequently also simultaneously have a company that revolutionizes automotive. If you have that limiting belief it’s going to be impossible to do that. This is why people that come to me and try to instill limiting beliefs in me, I erase them quite quickly. I don’t have limiting beliefs. And I say that with humility. Not because there’s anything special about me compared to anyone else. It’s just a choice, going back to what you just said. So, I appreciate you making that distinction because now we’re having a breakthrough here. It’s a simple choice. And so, if you’re watching this what choices are you making with how you see yourself? Since we’re talking a lot about books, and I see so many books behind you I’m willing to bet that one of the books behind you is probably Psycho-Cybernetics, a book that I know you’re very familiar with. And so, with that being said, that’s a fantastic place to start. If somebody is listening to what I’m saying and thinking, well, gosh, Elon Musk doesn’t have these problems or these limiting beliefs, where do I begin? I suggest starting with the work of Psycho-Cybernetics, a very powerful piece of work. Of course, you’re familiar with it. For those that may not be familiar with it delve into it. I’m not going to talk about it here because I know we don’t have a lot of time here. But how we see ourselves, how we visualize our avatar is so damn important, Barry. And something that so few people really take time to appreciate and understand. And even though it’s extremely important, and even though it’s easy not a lot of people do that. Not a lot of people take time to think about, hey, how do I think about myself? How do I feel about myself? And it’s not like a narcissistic thing. This is where some people get caught up. This is why it’s important to be clear with language. It’s not about being obsessed with yourself or loving the image of yourself. No, it’s about appreciating your own journey, appreciating the value that you provide for others, and the interconnectedness that we have with not just other human beings, but all centennial beings. And what we’re talking about right now is a spiritual conversation. We are now talking spirituality even though some people may have perceived it that way. And just to clarify my personal religion because there are some people that are, over the course of my journey, a lot of people are kind of confused. Some people think I might be Jewish because I work very closely with the Jewish community. In fact, in a few weeks, I’m going to be visiting a friend of mine in Beverly Hills who runs a synagogue. Some people think I’m Christian because I like to cite the Bible. A lot of people think I’m Muslim because I happen to have a Middle Eastern background. But let me just share with whoever’s interested what my religion is. I’m not Christian, I’m not Jewish. I’m not Muslim. Even though a lot of people think I’m Muslim, I’m not Muslim. What I am is, I’m Moeslim. I’ve created my own religion. And as a Moeslim my religion is very simple. I don’t convert anybody, there’s no one else that can be a Moeslim. I don’t ask anyone else what their religion is, I don’t care. I don’t want them to care about what my religion is. As a Moeslim, there’s only one Moeslim on the planet. My relationship with my creator is my business, my responsibility, no one else’s. And that’s what I am. And so, I think that in my opinion, if other people were Moeslims, and they just minded their own business the world would be a quite different place, and our history would be quite different. I believe in the religion of loving one another, appreciating one another, and putting ourselves in the shoes of one another.

Barry Shore:

So, let’s use one word that you mentioned a couple of times. And I think it goes to the foundational aspects of Moesism, and that is responsibility. The ability to accept responsibility for the choices that you have made or the decisions you’ve not made. You chose not to choose, that’s up to you. But once you begin to accept responses, recognize that there are no excuses for failure. And you cannot excuse yourself into success. But by using responsibility, examining your own avatar, and recognizing, asking the three questions, first of all, who am I? Now, why am I here? And now that I know both of those things what am I supposed to do? See, Moe is so far advanced, and I say it with respect and love. Advanced in the sense that he has asked the questions, and is giving answers to himself. He’s not preaching on the mountain and saying, this is what you need to do. This is what you, me, Moe need to do. Now, you watching, you want to do these things because when you ask those three questions, who am I? Why am I here? Now, what do I do? Guess what happens? You release the energy. You now have no limits. You are that being that everybody says wow. Wow stands for in Moe’s world, words of wisdom, and words of wonder. So, go to the barryshow.com website it’s all going to be there about Moe. So, let’s now go and dive a little deeper into what I call the law of attraction. When people hear the word law they feel limiting, they think of the police, and things like that. But in our world, of course, law stands for love and wisdom. That’s the real law of life, love, and wisdom. And that’s guided by the two principles of love and gratitude. So, let’s delve deeply into gratitude because in my humble opinion, Moe that is what animates you.

Moe Rock:

Thank you for that. I appreciate that and it is a very big part of what I stand for. And I know we have limited time but just to touch base a little bit with some of the ideas that you shared there before I really do a deep dive with gratitude with you here. Final thoughts on spirituality. One red flag that I have is when people say that they have the answer. I’ve come across quite a few people Barry they claim that they have not an answer that works for them but the answer. Now, usually, it comes from someone, I’m not a psychologist, but you can read about the God complex and how people think that they have the answer. I stay away from folks that say I have the answer. I have the truth. You don’t buddy. It’s a very delusional way to look at the world. For me, the closest way I could explain the truth is the opening of the Dao dei ching. The Dao that can be spoken of is not the eternal Dao. Speaking of the law of attraction, I’ve had a chance to speak with Joe Vitale several times now on the air. And we spent several hours together in conversation, and I recommend people look at those conversations. Some people have said that it was the most powerful conversation that they’ve ever heard from Joe Vitale, where he and I were talking about this. And he referred to the universe as the great mystery. I love that I resonate with that. Because no one’s saying, we have the answer, we have the secret sauce, follow me, and I can show you the way. I don’t like those things. Another one of my allergies. Now, talking about gratitude. You mentioned Denis Waitley, I am writing a book with Denis Waitley, Adora Evans, myself and Denis Waitley with some other co-authors, we’re coming together and writing a book coming out next year called “The New Way of Winning,” which I’m so excited about because Denis Waitley is a legend who worked, of course with Earl Nightingale. And so, to be able to write a book with somebody and to work with somebody that worked with Earl Nightingale, and to be officially part of that history because once we publish that book, and I become a co-author with Denis Waitley, who worked with Earl Nightingale I’m officially connected to that lineage, which is just amazing to me to even conceptualize that somehow that history is now part of my history and vice versa. So, that is something I’m eternally grateful for. But my contribution to that book is PPG.

The practical power of gratitude. You see, I have done a lot of research on gratitude. And I have come up with a lot of data, and a lot of numbers and charts and things that folks that tend to be stuck on the left side of their brain they would appreciate. Because a lot of creative folks like myself have our language, we have our way that we look at the world. But it’s not about just reaching out to people that see the same things I see, that see the world in the same colors that I see. It’s about also expressing ourselves to the folks that see the world differently. And so, when I talk about gratitude I’m talking about research, I’m talking about data. I’m talking about citing sources, I’m talking about research from Harvard University. And I’m showing people the practical power of gratitude, not the philosophical Power of Gratitude, not the theory of gratitude. But I’m actually showing people proven methodologies from history of how things changed in business for the bottom line of business. How P&L sheets were different because they applied gratitude. How turnover was reduced in companies because they started practicing gratitude with their employees. How vendors did not change to different people… I could go on and on and on. And so for me, gratitude Barry is spiritual and practical. And those two things should always be in my opinion, connected. Because if there’s a tree with a fruit but we can’t pick that fruit and eat it what good is that tree? What good is that fruit? And so, when we talk spirituality, how can we apply these things to our lives in the three-dimensional realm? And there are so many examples of the power of spirituality, you being one of them. How many folks without spirituality, without gratitude, without the right mindset would have not been able to survive your journey? They would have gone crazy, they would have felt victimized, and they would have hated the world. And I’m sure everyone, yourself included, has gone through every emotion when he goes through certain things like the stuff that you’ve gone through but you came out the other end being a force for good because you understand spirituality, you have spirituality, you have gratitude. So, when we look at historical examples, Barry Shore is a historical example, right here. This is a historical example right in front of me. We don’t need to go back to the time of Da Vinci, we could be here right now. And so, I appreciate you, I appreciate your journey. I think that while you’re so gracious with edifying others, we also need to take some time, and the folks watching you to take some time to really appreciate that we have a historical example right here with Barry Shore. Someone that regardless of what life threw at him, throws at him, never is a victim, never is entitled and has a positive attitude. Since we have the theme of books, I’ll just keep it going. Viktor Frankl, of course, experienced some of the worst things that a human being could even possibly imagine. I cannot imagine. I consider myself a creative person. I can’t imagine what he went through. As hard as I try, my brain just can’t go there. And yet, despite that, he still had empathy. He still had gratitude. He had gratitude for his free will to choose. He was grateful that he could choose how to experience what he was experiencing. And so, it’s just very profound when we look at these historical examples. And sadly, more people know about Kim Kardashian than they do Viktor Frankl, which is just a testament to the time that we live in. But I appreciate you, Barry. And I know we’re running short here on time.

Barry Shore:

I’m going to unpack a little bit on your PPG. Because it is the animating force that can enable people to move, shift. You see, the practical power of gratitude can cause shift to happen. Now, unfortunately, when people use the word shift for some reason, Moe, I don’t know why they drop the F from shift happens and the other stuff comes out. But it’s really shift happens. And it’s a very small shift. That’s all you need. That one small shift, and understanding the practical power of gratitude. And then when it’s done from the inside out, not as a manipulative process. But as a fountain coming from you, then everything around you shifts, everything that you see, that you experience will become faster, better, and more productive. And who doesn’t want that? That’s happier, healthier, and wealthier. And again, this is the essence of why I have been so blessed to have Moe say yes to come on the show and be with us. And there’s a line that he and I both share that we really don’t just think about but we act upon, if it’s to be it’s up to me. Do you hear that? Again, part of what’s happening right now is that we have a worldwide audience. But it’s worldwide in the sense that it’s one person at a time, as you know Moe, we’re going to have to close up because of time. But there’s a phrase that I’ve been using of late that really gets people to sit up and take notice and that is learn to love dog poop. Did Barry, say dog poop? Yes, Barry Shore said dog poop. Learn to love it. Because dog poop stands for doing of good, and so Moe just talked about the power of one person. Moe makes a difference in the world. He’s a madman, he’s making a difference. That’s what he loves. So, I’m going to ask you three quick questions. And then we’re going to bring this particular episodic episode to it’s place. And the first question is Moe, will you come back again?

Moe Rock:

Yes, sir. Whenever I have the opportunity to I would love to come back, Barry.

Barry Shore:

Thank you. Number two, you have 80 seconds only to answer this. What is your most fervent desire?

Moe Rock:

I’ll tell you off the air. I can’t talk about them publicly. My desire is that I continue to have relationships in my life like the one that you and I have. I continue to have friends in my life that I admire, that I respect, and people that our respect is mutual. For me, being respected by Barry Shore is worth a lot. Because I consider Barry Shore to be a thought leader. And if I want to be a peer of Barry Shore, and if Barry Shore sees me as a peer that does my heart glad. And so, to have friends like Barry Shore, have friends that I read about, that I look up to, this is something that gives a zest to my life that puts a pep in my step so to say. And so, having good friends, having good people in my life, people that speak the same language that I speak this does my heart glad.

Barry Shore:

Thank you. And the third is, may I give you a hug in front of 369,283 people around the world? But let me everybody what hug stands for heartfelt, unlimited giving because that’s what Moe is all about. Ready 1-2-3 roar. On The Joy of Living with your humble host Barry Shore, and you’ve tuned in remember for one reason, one reason only, very good. Because you care the most in the entire world about you, Y-O-U. Because when you’re the best you, you make the world a better place, you build more bridges of harmony, you create more joy, happiness, peace, and love in the world. And when we use the three fundamentals of life, number one life, your life has a purpose. Number two, to go mad means make a difference. Go make a difference. Number three, to unlock the power and the secrets of everyday words and terms, then you will as a result of this be happier, healthier, and wealthy. Who doesn’t want that? Www what a wonderful world, smile, see miracles alive every day. As my eight-year-old niece says, see miracles in everyday life. Create the kind of world we want to live in as Moe taught us. Create the kind of world you want causing, rethinking, enabling all to excel. Use four-letter words but remember, we live in the world of positive, purposeful, powerful, and pleasant. So, our four-letter words are love, life, hope, grow, rock, swim, pray, play, good. And tell the world to F U capital N capital N. And remember to use the two most powerful words in the English language three times a day consciously and conscientiously. You do this, you will be better. Your family will be better. Your friends will be better. The entire world will feel the effects of you using thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, [unintelligible: 57:42] to harmonize a network of kindness. Kind, the essence of Moe Rock. Keep inspiring noble deeds. And when you do that the world becomes the kind of place where we all want to grow and live and thrive. And our blessing to you from Moe and Barry is go forth, live exuberantly, spread the seeds of joy, happiness, peace, and love.

Outro  

Thank you for listening to this episode of The Joy of Living Podcast. Now, that’s another step towards your healthier, happier, and wealthier life. Never hesitate to do good in the world no matter what the situation. Join us for another upbeat discussion next time at barryshore.com. And be sure to leave a rating and subscribe to the show to get more conversations like this. And remember to share it with your family and friends too. See you on the next episode.