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Faith and Hope With Philosopher Noah BenShea

Faith and Hope With Philosopher Noah benShea

Do you think you have the faith to walk on water? Faith is often thought of in terms of religion, but it really is so much more. Faith is having confidence or trust in someone or something. When we have faith in ourselves, we are confident that we can achieve our goals. Faith is also believing in something that we cannot see. This could be a higher power, an unseen force, or the idea that everything happens for a reason. And with the faith comes hope. Hope is an optimistic attitude that things will work out, even when the odds seem against us. Faith and hope go hand in hand. Today we’ve a special guest, Noah benShea is one of the most renowned and beloved poets-philosophers in North America. He has been awarded the Pulitzer Prize, as well as other prestigious accolades. And as our mental health activist Barry Shore says, “Noah’s work has the ability to change lives.”

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Show Notes:

  • 00:45 – Barry’s rousing introduction
  • 14:17 – What’s hope and faith?
  • 24:40 – How to touch our essence?
  • 41:55 – How are you building your ark, not just for yourself but to include all beings to be saved?
  • 52:21- Barry’s Interesting Wrap-up

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Barry Shore: 

I can’t think of anybody that inspires noble deeds that I want to share with you then the amazing, wonderful, fabulous Noah BenShea. Noah, please let everybody see you and say a huge hello. 

Noah BenShea: 

Hello.

Barry Shore: 

To 58,722 people around the world. That was the answer to one hand clapping, one hand thanking the world.

Noah BenShea: 

Amen. Amen. Amen.

Barry Shore: 

That was so wonderful. So, first of all, it’s such a delight and a pleasure. And I say delight in the fullest sense because that’s what Noah BenShea is all about. Light. That’s what he does. He brings light to a world that oftentimes seems dark, depressed, and filled with stress and anxiety. And we’re going to talk about that because Noah has three accolades that he goes by. Of you ask anybody, ask about Noah BenShea. You say, who is he? Well, he’s an author, he’s a poet and he’s a philosopher. And the most important for me is that he lives each one of those. He lives his writings, he lives his poetry. He doesn’t just talk about philosophy. He is the embodiment of what he talks about. So, we’re going to discuss three major big issues in life. And by the way, if I started telling you all the wonderful things about Noah BenShea and his CV it would take the rest of the show. So, what I’m going to do is urge everybody to just go to my site wwwwhatawonderfulworld.barryshore.com. Everything about Noah will be there. There’s lots of stuff about Noah to be there. So, go to the website. You don’t have to write anything down. What I want you to do is just enjoy the process of having this amazing sage with us today and let everything flow in and around you. Is that fair enough, Noah? Do you like that?

Noah BenShea: 

The Talmud teaches us that you shouldn’t say everything good about a person while you’re in their company. So, as flattered as I am by this introduction, I can’t help but think how much more might have been said about me if I had the wisdom not to be here today.

Barry Shore: 

If you weren’t, right. And I would be talking for much more and really doing stuff. I’m going to layer in some quotes from people such as Larry King and the head of Starbucks a little later. But let’s just jump right to issues that are touching the world. Let’s be blunt. I don’t know if you’re watching this right now but we’re in the year 2022. That’s what most of the world calls it. Now, you may be watching this, listening to this a century from now, and still say, well, I want to hear Barry Shaw and Noah BenShea. Okay, that’s great. But understand that at this particular point in time there is a wave of, I will almost call it despair, in the world, Noah. And one of the things that I’m so happy that we’re going to be talking about, three big things. We’re going to talk about hope and caring and we’re going to talk about faith. So, let’s just jump right in at the one that makes all the difference, hope.

Noah BenShea: 

I think now that clearly, the most common planetary passport is anxiety. And the Buddha has a teaching that guilt won’t change the past and anxiety won’t improve the future. My feeling for a long time has been that hope is prayer with wings and that from hope you have the capacity to come to faith. But that the springboard to it is hope. It would be hard for me to imagine a life without hope. And if you meet somebody whose life is absent of hope, their sadness is visceral. And the effort to try and connect with people is sometimes to remind people that even when they find their lives in absence of hope or in the darkness of will, you can see a light in them. And when you can see that light you become light. And when you see the light in others or remind them that you can see a light in others your world becomes brighter. It just works that way. For a long time, I felt here we are where so many people talk about the contagions that are out there with COVID and assorted, whatever the contagion of the month to some extent, my feeling is that nothing is as contagious as hope and nothing is as contagious as caring. And that is the infection of choice if you would.

Barry Shore: 

Let’s unpack this because you’re delivering so much wonderful information. Wonderful, by the way, is spelled 0NEDERFUL. Hope in our vocabulary because I work with acronyms and words all day long and that’s my life, stands for helping others progress every day. And the way that you said it is it can be done in the simplest way, which is to recognize the light in the other being. Because by doing that you’re touching the essence of you.

Noah BenShea: 

Absolutely. For a long time, it’s been very clear that only people who love themselves can be loving others. Only people who can be caring for themselves can be caring for others. Only people who are good company to themselves can be good company to others. So, if you don’t witness the light in your life it’s very hard to witness it in others. That doesn’t mean that the light has gone out in others. It means that the light in you is so dim that you can’t perceive it in yourself. So again, to be a candle light a candle, if you will. And one of the things that have been interesting, sometimes you hear things and then you don’t know what you know until you know it. And on the top of every arc in every synagogue and it’s born into every church, really, when you go in there now, in Hebrew is called the near Talmud, the eternal light. And what’s so important about that is the recognition that it isn’t a sometimes light, it’s an eternal light. It’s not like the occasional light. It is the night light. You know they used to be that you always hear when you’re a kid or even now as you’re younger than you’re currently young. When you get up in the nighttime you have a night light in the bathroom so you don’t bang yourself and say thank you too loudly to yourself that you need that night light. So, I think remembering that the light that you leave on the porch for you to come home to yourself will allow you to see the light in others. I’m sort of looking up as I’m saying this because I’m thinking out loud doing it. And for me, you’re right this is an occupational hazard. I used to have a photographic memory. I still do, except I don’t have same-day developing anymore, I remind myself. But I do think that between here and here is my manufacturing plant. And so, I’m trying to connect that with you this morning.

Barry Shore: 

But if you’re only listening to this the hear and hear was between his HEAR and HEAR meaning his ears. So, your point explained the fact that, yes, what exists between our ears is that which enables us to, as you say, regard the light in others and recognize that it is an eternal light.

Noah BenShea: 

There is a story I told myself about a woman who comes to see my character in my book Jacob and the Jacob the Baker series of books that I’ve written. And she says, Jacob, it’s so dark out at night. All I can see are the stars. So he said, well, you then have reason to have hope. She said, why? He said it is the darkness that makes the stars brighter. So, let us remember that it isn’t that life is absent of darkness. It is that the darkness in life, the darkness in the night sky will make the stars of hope brighter yet.

Barry Shore: 

Let’s talk about the stars of hope. I want to just throw in a couple of things that I think you might like. I’m thinking about what you just said, the eternal light. And if you put in the letter X, which stands for the exuberance of life you now also have the external light.

Noah BenShea: 

So, let me riff with you on that for a second, Barry.

Barry Shore: 

I love it. He’s a jazz man. He knows what we’re talking about.

Noah BenShea: 

Let’s just riff on this that the external light is an internal light. And it is an eternal light. So, it’s an external light, is an internal light is an eternal light. As it is within it is outside of you as well as it is around you. So, you don’t exit from this light into the darkness. You exit from this light in this lifetime into the near Talmud into the eternal light.

Barry Shore: 

Now, we’re not rushing to get there but as long as you’re living every moment in that process then you recognize that the light that you have now, which is wonderful and loving and encompassing is even brighter and more, by the way, that’s a law. I love that you might like this one also to riff on wonderful, Noah. Is that law, when people hear that word, they tend to close up because they think of the spinning wheel on the police car. But law stands for love and wisdom. That’s the law that wonderful Noah BenShea is talking about right now, right?

Noah BenShea: 

So, if you examine this for the moment, not from the point of if you ask when you said that, Noah, is this author, poet, and philosopher. The philosopher might say things to you that you hold metaphysically interesting but where do they have reality? Let’s borrow from one of the minor minds of all time, Albert Einstein, who said to us that energy cannot be created nor destroyed it can only change form. So, it isn’t that you’re here and then gone. It’s here and that you’re here and you’re here and you’re here. But I raise this Barry to this point, I was at a memorial service for a child who died too young. And the children in this family were trying to deal with this. And one of them asked me, do you believe in reincarnation, Noah? And I said I do. I just don’t think you have to die to be reincarnated.

Barry Shore: 

Wait a minute. First of all, if you’re not watching and you’re listening there’s a big smile on his face and mine as well because the internal light is now externalized. And I want him to repeat that line because it’s so cool. If you think about reincarnation and anybody asked you about it, what did you say, Noah?

Noah BenShea: 

Someone asked me once if I believe in reincarnation, and I said, I do. I just don’t think you have to die to be reincarnated. It allows you to recognize that who you are in this moment is not who you were in the previous moment because it’s impossible, because physicists remind us time only moves forward it doesn’t go backward. So, if you doubt this for a second ask yourself this about how the world spins. The next time you take a bath, pull out the plug and watch how the water always gurgles down the drain in one way. They say, why doesn’t it go down the other way? Because the earth is spinning forward. To this point let me say this. We live on a little blue ball. I know I’m off here riffing and having a good time because you have a contagious light and spirit, Barry. We live on a little blue ball spinning at 1060 miles an hour. That you don’t know it’s spinning at 1060 miles an hour has nothing to do with the fact of the matter. If you doubt it for a second the equator has 24,000 miles. In 24 hours you have to turn around one revolution of the earth. You could not be going less than 1000 miles an hour. So, if we were standing on a little blue ball spinning at 1060 miles an hour do you ever doubt for a moment that at some moment in your life you will lose your balance? That’s what this life business is about. It’s about losing your balance and finding your balance and the dignity in not only losing your balance and realizing that is what connects you to all other people that is the shared vulnerability of losing our balance and the shared opportunity of refinding our balance. People think, oh, children have their terrible twos and their awful fours. Trust me, my friends, you will have your awful 18s, your terrible 27s. I’m not so certain 39, oh am I going there again 49, oh it’s this at 62, and oh I’m this, where am I going at 77? You’re on a planet spinning at 1060 miles an hour. Losing your balance and finding your balance is never mission accomplished. It’s always a work in process. You are in process.

Barry Shore: 

I love that. And he shares willingly with a big smile and the light is beaming forth throughout the world right now. And I got to tell you one thing then we’re going to go to a quick break because we have sponsors that love us and love what we’re talking about. And it’s so you, wonderful, Noah. I want to share with you the word that you said about sharing. Share stands for spreading happiness and rejuvenating energy. We’ll be right back after this brief message from our amazing sponsors. You want to listen, you want to use it because it’s great stuff. Be right back after this brief message. Good day beautiful, bountiful, beloved immortal beings and good-looking people. Remember you’re good-looking because you’re always looking for and finding the good. We have good in abundance. Our cup runneth over with good. It happens to be a two-legged being, an eternal light being, an external light being, a harmony being. His name is Noah BenShea. I’m going to emphasize the Noah part at the moment again because we’re talking about the world and we’re talking about a flood, a FLOOD of stuff that’s happening to people and they don’t even recognize it. They’re trying to push it aside, as you mentioned, anxiety and stress and disconnect. I call that sad. The real issues that we’re dealing with today and the contagion that we are spreading is that of joy, happiness, peace, and love. The other contagions are being talked about all the time. So, the key is using your thoughts, your words, and your deeds, Noah, to make sure that the flood does not encompass you. So, that’s who you are. You are living your namesake, sir. So, how do we do it? How are you building your ark, not just for yourself but to include all beings to be saved?

Noah BenShea: 

A couple of thoughts. One, yes, thank you. The name Noah in Hebrew means comfort because Noah gave comfort to a world in the flood. But let me share this. I’m going to go backward for a second and then I’ll move forward. If you looked in the pocket of an 18th-century Frenchman who was wealthy, you would see two watches. And the reason you would see two watches was that watches were inclined to run down. And so, when one watch run down he would use the other watch to reset it. In this lifetime we will all have a moment when we will run down and we will need to stop and be rewound by the person next to us who will help us catch again. In this lifetime, there are the inevitable sadnesses, the floods of despair. It’s losing a parent, losing a child, losing your job, losing your way, losing your health. And when those things happen, we have the opportunity and the need to retreat from life into an ark so that we can survive that moment emotionally. But I ask myself a while back, why does God tell Noah to put a window on the top of the ark? Noah doesn’t need a window to know that it’s raining, that’s for sure. He needs a window to know when the rain has stopped. So, there will come a time in your life when you will need to step back from life, recede from life, and go into your own emotional despair. And you have that right in your lifetime because you have that despair in your life. But it is important to know and to remind those who forget. If you are a friend to someone let them look up and see when the rain has stopped and let them know that it is time for them to come out of their despair and reenter the world the same way as when Noah finally saw the dove came back one time with a leaf, he knew the flood was receding. The second time he sent it out the dove didn’t come back and he knew the dove had found a place to land. There is a place to land in life, my friends, outside of the despair that we need to retreat in and you have a right to retreat in. And I tell people sometimes when they say, Noah, you’re right God never gives us more than we can bear. And I’m saying, do not say that so quickly because I do not want anybody to feel that I can presume what they can bear. Sometimes life does give us more than we can bear. And what we have to understand is to be a friend to someone who feels when they are suffering more than they can bear and give them the right to be in that state of suffering. All pain is private. Just the same way as all heroism is a private matter. People run up a hill under gunfire but the real heroism in life is the woman who at 11:00 in the morning doesn’t reach for the vodka bottle in the closet. It’s the man who’s on a business trip at 11:00 at night and passes on the opportunity from the woman who’s going to give him her room key, or the kid who’s ten years old who at 4:00 in the afternoon when the other kids are threatening him to calling him a pussy if he doesn’t climb up some tower decides he will pass on it. The real heroism in life is private. The pain in life is private. Honor that privacy. Honor the isolation that’s in each person’s life because you know that nobody else knows what you’re thinking at this moment. When you understand that then you understand that we are all alone together.

Barry Shore: 

I have three words to say to you. I love you. Let me throw in here a couple of quotes. This one is from a fellow named, well, it doesn’t matter. It’s from a book. Interesting book. Gentle wisdom for a complicated world. It’s a book that I recommend to everybody. It’s a book that will be of benefit and will help heal. Everybody needs some healing, gentle wisdom for a complicated world comes from a book called Jacob the Baker. We might talk about it in more detail but I want to also mention there was a man who has gone on to another light. His name was Larry King. He was the king of talk in America on CNN for decades, and only the best were with Larry King. And he has this great quote I love about Noah BenShea. I’m going to embarrass him but hey, why not. Noah BenShea and Jacob the Baker again, a book I recommend to everybody is together a compass because he has with wisdom, compassion, and humor helped so many to find their way. Now, here’s the money quote. He is like a Zen Mark Twain. How much fun is that? Okay, Mr. Z, Mr. Zen Mark Twain. Because Mark Twain was so filled with humor that cut right through into the being to allow you to express who you are. I love the idea that all pain is private. All heroism is private because we are all alone together. I’m just going to share with you one thing, the word alone. Most people unfortunately mispronounce it. Now, you know this because you’re who you are but you didn’t want to just expose it so I’ll expose it for you. The real way to pronounce that word ALONE and is all one. We are all one together.

Noah BenShea: 

Okay, now I’m going to play jazz musician with you again. When we think of the word atonement, which is like being healed, you have sought and received the atonement from God. Atonement is at one moment. You were at one at the moment with. So that is what we are trying to come to because the despair that we feel is the disconnect. When we’re in a state of disconnect we feel vulnerable. When we feel vulnerable we go into anger. And anger burns down a man’s own house and the man in the house. So I suggest, at one [unintelligible 00:31:56] is the real issue. There’s a line in one of my Jacob the Baker books that say how high could Moses climb? Moses climbed to number one. And what did he do then? He came down. They say that what really was important is that when Moses had this moment with God he has two choices. He can wander off like a lot of people who think they’ve seen the light and wander off like a mad person through the desert, or you could come down the mountain. But what the words say in the Bible is that when Moses came down the mountain the light on his face became less because he couldn’t come back down feeling elevated to be the divine. The light on his face became less. Now, it’s interesting. So, the word for light in Hebrew is the same wave as [unintelligible 00:32:50]. But people misconstrued it who didn’t know Hebrew as Horn. So, they had Moses with horns because they saw he came down with the light. But it says he had to come down with humility. So, why do I say this? I take the very kind words you said and the kind words of others but if I have something to say to others it requires that the light on my face has to be less. Because Aristotle said that honesty is the portal to all wisdom. Aristotle was a very bright guy by any standards. But if Aristotle said that honesty is the portal to all wisdom, Noah BenShea, and Jacob the Baker says that humility is the portal to all honesty. Because until you are aware that you know less you cannot know more. Until you release your breath you cannot take a breath. That’s the way it works.

Barry Shore: 

That’s the way it works.

Noah BenShea: 

Let me share this with you, Barry. Our friend Shaun Tomson and the book that Shaun and I did. He said he couldn’t wait for this conversation with the two of us. Let me share an idea I’ve had for a while. When the first person was created in the Bible, now when you say about the Bible, we’re talking about the Abrahamic religions. So, this is the Bible of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. So, we’re not talking about one small cadre of people on this planet. It says in the first that God blew into the red earth, the word for red in Hebrew is Adam, that’s why the first man is named Adam. He blew into the red earth, and he inspired…to be inspired means to be filled with breath. So, the first person was inspired by the breath of God. But how long could Adam hold his breath? So, when he released his breath Eve picked up his breath. And how long could Eve hold her breath? When Eve picked her breath, she released her breath so the others around. So, the way it works is the very first breath of God in the very first person has been passed from person to person to person. So, while we think conspiring now means something in the pejorative playing a crime, it really means breathing together. So, we are all conspiring because we are all inspired. Because the very first breath that came into the very first person has been passed from person to person. So, we are in a shared inspiration. Know that about your life and know that to remind somebody who feels diminished about their life to remind them that they are inspired. That’s an act of compassion. And compassion comes from the Latin meaning with passion. Compassion is to be passionately caring.

Barry Shore: 

And we are now, people are leaning in and they’re writing feverishly. I urge you again, don’t write. Just listen. You can hear it again and again because this is coming directly from an inspired being who knows how to breathe. And breathing is one of the most important things that anybody can do in life, especially if you do it consciously and conscientiously, which is what I discuss a lot. We don’t have a lot of time on this particular round but let’s dive into or surf, actually, this book that you just brought out with, again, our mutual friend Shaun Tomson, who in his own right is quite a remarkable, wonderful fellow. And the book is titled The Surfer and the Sage.

Noah BenShea: 

Shaun is one of the all-time legendary surfers in the history of surfing and is held in the highest regard as an icon in surfing. He and I have a real bromance going on. But when we were doing it, I suggested that we do a book together. I can assure you since I’ve never been on a surfboard in life it was Shaun who suggested it be called The Surfer and the Sage. I’d feel way too self-conscious about that in its own regard. But the subtitle to our book is How to Survive and Ride Life’s Waves. And the book has been number one on Amazon, both in the book and the audible, we did an audible, was number two on Amazon. And I think for both of us at this point in time. Great psychotherapists always say to speak in the first person. At this point in my life, my trading card is at the very least, to be honest. And so, what Shaun and I wanted to do was to write something that we thought would make a difference in the lives of people who find themselves in the contagion of anxiety. And we all find ourselves exposed to that contagion at some point. It isn’t like you can wear a mask in life and not come down with anxiety. We all have those, what I call 3 a.m. truths. That’s when you wake up in the middle of the night and you find yourself counting the tiles on the ceiling because you’re thinking about something like an illness in a child that you can’t solve or a job that you can’t find or a memory that you have. And even the most wonderful rose that you can remember to memory still has thorns. So, at 3:00 in the morning when you’re trying to deal with that, this book The Surfer and the Sage, I think is a very honest reach. And it seems to be connecting with people in a particular way. It was the 30th book of mine that I’ve published, and I feel deeply honored by this work, which I never saw coming.

Barry Shore: 

That’s even more why it’s so wonderful.

Noah BenShea: 

There are a couple of moments in your life when people say when I knew I wanted to write but when I knew I was writing poetry and particularly Eastern and Western religious literature [unintelligible 00:38:59] my work. If you’re a poet and waiting for all of the applause, it’s like someone who throws rose petals over the Grand Canyon and waiting for the echo.

Barry Shore: 

That was too good a line to just not have again. That was a chord that I want to hear repeated. It’s like what? Throwing rose…keep going.

Noah BenShea: 

I say to people that sometimes expectation is the easiest way to arrive at despair. And if you’re a poet or have some work that you wait for the world to respond to it’s like throwing rose petals into the Grand Canyon and waiting for the echo. There are relationships in life where you could feel that way as well waiting for her or him to respond in a certain way. So, when you take that path but there are things you never witnessed coming. I could never witness doing this book with Shaun, The Surfer, and The Sage or the kind of response. But then I never saw it coming when Starbucks, the chairman of Starbucks, was given a copy of Jacob the Baker by the chairman of Costco, and the chairman of Starbucks gave it to all his senior management. And the next thing I knew they took a line of mine and put it on 30 million Starbucks coffee cups. Now, I can assure you that when I wanted to be a poet, first of all, there was no Starbucks, there were no coffee shops like this. There wasn’t that disposable world. So then they say, well, what was the line that was on there? Because now that line has passed through. The line is this and I’ll share this with you. Do not kiss your children so they will kiss you back. But so they will kiss their children and their children’s children. There’s something that we’re just posting up this morning that grandchildren are the best way to hold hands with forever.

Barry Shore: 

That’s another great line.

Noah BenShea: 

Thank you. 

Barry Shore: 

Grandchildren are the best way to hold hands with forever. Hello.

Noah BenShea: 

Right. Do not kiss your children so they will kiss you back. But so they will kiss their children and their children’s children. Play it for it forward. I remind people in this lifetime that everything we do is a reciprocal trade agreement. I give you money, I get gas, I get this, I get this. Except for two things. Teaching and parenting. In teaching and parenting what you get is the right to give.

Barry Shore: 

Absolutely. The Joy of Living, which is this podcast, is summed up in one word. Do you want to have joy in living, giving? You’re in service. We are in service. By the way, you are a mad man. And both of you, you and Shaun are both mad men. Because mad is that acronym that stands for make a difference.

Noah BenShea: 

Jacob the Baker says of all the things you can make in life, Noah BenShea and Jacob the Baker, I have to borrow from myself sometimes. I’m reminded. My friends if you’re listening to this, I ask this to take to heart. Of all the things you can make in life why not make a difference?

Barry Shore: 

Are we not simpatico?

Noah BenShea: 

Yes. And the gestalt that one and one is one.

Barry Shore: 

And by the way, one, in this case, is spelled ONE and WON. Because that’s how you win in life. The essence of what we’re having here with Noah BenShea and Barry Shore is jazz, man. And it is full-on beautiful, wonderful, inspiring, eternal light jazz.

Noah BenShea: 

Jacob Baker says it’s the silence between the notes that makes the music. And the Dow reminds us that those who know do not say and those who say do not know. So, you have to remember which way you are on this issue. And to borrow, since you said it was referred to as the Zen Mark Twain. Mark Twain said the good thing about kids is they tell you what they know and then they stop.

Barry Shore: 

Did you hear that laugh? Because that’s what happens when you hear the truth. Jacob the Baker, aka Noah BenShea, aka the Sage, a.k.a. I’m hoping to say this, my friend. I have three questions for you. Are you ready?

Noah BenShea: 

Yes.

Barry Shore: 

First question, will you come back again?

Noah BenShea: 

Yes.

Barry Shore: 

Second question.

Noah BenShea: 

Did you mean on your show or did you mean was I going to return in another reincarnation?

Barry Shore: 

I want you on the show.

Noah BenShea: 

When you ask if I’ll come back and I said. I told my children the three words for soul in Hebrew, one of them is [unintelligible 00:44:37], wind because God blew into the first. So I said, one day when I’m not here you’ll feel the wind in your face and say, oh, there’s that. I’ll come back again, yes.

Barry Shore: 

Thank you. The second question and you have only 80 seconds to answer this one. What is your most fervent desire?

Noah BenShea: 

Many years ago, I was reading a prayer book and it says in Hebrew you ask for shalom [unintelligible 00:45:11], peace and blessings. So I asked myself, why does it say peace and blessings? You would think that if you got a blessing that’s as good as it gets in life. And then I realized that any peace you find in life is its own blessing. And any blessing that does not bring you peace is no blessing. My most fervent desire in the moments that I have on this earth is to be at peace with who I am in this moment.

Barry Shore: 

And the third question. May I give you a hug in front of 362,838 people around the world?

Noah BenShea: 

Sometimes, says Jacob the Baker and Noah BenShea, the best way to get warm is to wrap your arms around someone who is cold.

Barry Shore: 

Well, you got two hot ones, baby. [Unintelligible 00:46:14]. Let me tell you what Hug stands for, heartfelt unlimited giving.

Noah BenShea:

I would respond to you with this addition, my friend, that the last letter in hug is gratitude. Thank you.

Barry Shore: 

Heartfelt unlimited gratitude. Here we go. On the count of three.

Noah BenShea: 

Because in gratitude there are miracles. And this moment [unintelligible 00: 46:38]. I speak Thai. So the quest for this moment is a miracle. Why is it a miracle? Because [unintelligible 00:46:47]. Because in gratitude there are miracles. In gratitude for this moment, Barry. Thank you for the invite. Let’s do it again.

Barry Shore: 

Wow. Okay, here’s our hug. One, two, three…Roar. The Joy of Living with your humble host, Barry Shore, and our amazing, wonderful guest, Noah BenShea. And you were listening to the show for one reason and one reason only. Remember it’s not about Barry Shore, it’s not even about Noah, as great as we are. It’s about you…YOU. You becoming the best you possible. Because if you’re the best you, you make the world a better place to build more bridges of joy, happiness, peace, and love.

Noah BenShea: 

For each of you. I say, may you go [unintelligible 00:47:35] in Hebrew. May you go from strength to strength and be a source of strength to others.

Barry Shore: 

How’s that for blessings, kids? Because you live the three fundamentals of life. Life has purpose like Noah BenShea has been telling us, sharing with us. And the second thing is your life has purpose you go mad. You make a difference in the world, do it in private. You make a difference in the world. Unlock the power and the secrets of everyday words and terms such as www what a wonderful world. Smile, seeing miracles in life every day or as my eight-year-old niece says, seeing miracles in everyday life. Create the kind of world you want to live in. Noah just gave you some wonderful directions causing, rethinking, and enabling all to excel. Use the two most powerful words in the English language three times a day, consciously and conscientiously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And use four-letter words. Love, live, hope, grow, free, play, pray, surf, sage. And tell the world to FU capital N, capital N. When you do that you bring more peace and harmony to the world and a blessing from wonderful Jacob aka Noah and Barry. It is go forth live exuberantly. Spread the seeds of joy, happiness, peace, and love. Go mad. Go make a difference. 

Noah BenShea: 

I’m out of here, Barry.

Barry Shore: 

Noah, I hope you enjoyed that more than I did.

Noah BenShea: 

It was a wonderful moment. And you are, for me, a delightful contagion. You invite me to be my better self. That’s as good as it gets. Thank you, Barry. I got to jump. I’ll talk to you soon. Let me know what’s going on, okay. Bye, buddy. Be well. Be well. Be well.

Barry Shore: 

Back at you, kid.

Noah BenShea: 

You had me at kid.

About Noah benShea

Noah benShea is one of North America’s most respected and beloved poet philosophers. He is a Pulitzer Prize nominated, international Best Selling author of 28 books translated into 18 languages. He is a scholar and theologian who has spoken to numerous prestigious universities and institutions including: The Library of Congress and The US Department of Defense, and he has been published by Oxford University Press and The World Bible Society in Jerusalem.